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Log of AMA with Gregor Novak - CEO (@gregornovak ) , Mojca Bajec - CFO (@mbajec) Martina Gabor - CIO (@mgabor) , Luka Pušič (@lukapusic) - IT, Rok Gornik (@rgornik) community and marketing, Mitja Blatnik (@mitjablatnik), Andraž Verdev (@tenzor7), from SunContract.org

boldninja Lets all give a warm welcome to Gregor Novak - CEO (@gregornovak ) , Mojca Bajec - CFO (@mbajec) Martina Gabor - CIO (@mgabor) , Luka Pušič (@lukapusic) - IT, Rok Gornik (@rgornik) community and marketing, Mitja Blatnik (@mitjablatnik), Andraž Verdev (@tenzor7), from SunContract.org - feel free to ask them any question regarding their upcoming project (edited)
darius got in again at $0.75 heheh
hi guys! welcome
votequimby damn I had a grand floating around in escrow hell yesterday. Really wish I caught that 27k sat dip yesterday
rgornik hi
darius :wave:
mad4thrash Welcome guys!
dr10 Hello Guys
tranzer hi suncontract guys and girls glad you took the time
kobi Warm welcome!
lukapusic Hi everyone
mitjablatnik hello all
votequimby I am completely interested to hear around SunContract
techbytes Welcome SunContract...
rgornik hi @kobi :smile:
kobi :wave: :smile:
votequimby hello SunContract people, welcome :smile:
mgabor Hi
gregornovak welcome to all
rgornik Guys just to show you our work in real world, you can check out this googlemaps location. This is our previous work: https://www.google.si/maps/place/Vi%C5%A1nje+9,+5273+Col/@45.8716435,14.0210757,391m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x477b23ce06fd286b:0x43aae534ea89f145!8m2!3d45.872092!4d14.0220363
Teaser :slightly_smiling_face: (edited)
tranzer I guess I'll start - how much do you aim to raise? Did you follow Bancor from yesterday, how do you prepare for such flood?
rhmral Hi!
dr10 What is the difference between suncontract and solarcoin? Both try to push the solar energy market and use blockchain as a tool to connect generators and consumers through a peer to peer method.
votequimby Why do you think a mobile app is the best and most secure way for different entities across the world to trade energy?
th0r Hi SunContract! Lovely to hear from you! :)
myarkname I am a consumer, I have joined in your pool and I have bought energy from producers also in your pool. How will the actual physical connection from my traditional electrical grid to the grid of the provider will take place ?
dr10 So As I understood the electrical distribution grid from europe and US is separated, that means on US ground and EU ground there will be separate groups who produce and consume the electrical pool of suncontract?
boldninja OK lets give them some time to answer those first :smile:
mike Hi to all of SunContract team, thanks for joining us for AMA
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Hi everyone this is our AMA team :D
rgornik Our minimum goal is to raise 10.000 ETH. We would be happy if we raise 40.000 ETH because then we will have enough to attack global market with marketing. Maximum cap is 100.000 ETH. If we raise so much then we will plan also some mergers and aquistions
tranzer I guess I'll start - how much do you aim to raise? Did you follow Bancor from yesterday, how do you prepare for such flood?
votequimby I'd drink with those folks. :smile:
aquazi can't trust somebody wearing flip flops
jk
lukapusic Lol :D
th0r @aquazi it's over 30 degrees C here :joy:
rgornik We want to make it simple to average Joe. Security and simplicity is what we are aiming for
votequimby Why do you think a mobile app is the best and most secure way for different entities across the world to trade energy?
qnk Hey guys ! nice to meet you
jade49 Hello from Dubai coleagues :slightly_smiling_face:
rgornik Exactly. THough bear in mind we want to transform energy production into locally production. Local production would mean decentralization of the system, we wont have single point of failure, less pollution comes with renewables etc.
dr10 So As I understood the electrical distribution grid from europe and US is separated, that means on US ground and EU ground there will be separate groups who produce and consume the electrical pool of suncontract?
moobox they should sell truck-sized fast neutron reactors
dr10 so your system is focussing on regions? not peer to peer transfer of energy from someone living in spain to someone living in russia?
th0r What problems do you anticipate in practical world? Connecting consumers and satisfying goverments (so proper taxes are paid etc).
tranzer Since you seem to be coming from Slovenia (looking at your team members and doing some research), will you start there?
moobox greetings and welcome qnk
gregornovak @d10 SolarCoin is rewards program for solar electricity generation, but we develop a P2P trading platform for renewables and other energy needed
mitjablatnik yes, we will start in Slovenia, where we know the jurisdiction in detail
tranzer Since you seem to be coming from Slovenia (looking at your team members and doing some research), will you start there?
later on our focus is EU
mitjablatnik yes, we will start in Slovenia, where we know the jurisdiction in detail
dr10 How will I be able to buy Energy by Solarcoin, will there be a website? What different offers can I use on that trading platform? Or is it just buying energy and thats it? Will I buy a big energy package that hodls for a month or a year? On what preferences will I chose an energy producer on the platform? Or is it even important who delivers my energy, since it will have all the same price and attitude(solar energy)?
tenzor7 Firstly, the pool will need to be present in your jurdistiction. You will then be able to join the pool. The actual physical connection will be the same as it is today. We will utilise the existing grid and with time, aim to improve it.
myarkname I am a consumer, I have joined in your pool and I have bought energy from producers also in your pool. How will the actual physical connection from my traditional electrical grid to the grid of the provider will take place ?
matjaz Hey SunContract! I have prepared some questions. hope you can reply to all. Thanks!
What are first markets you are launching? EU? Germany? France? Slovenia? Which countries will support real p2p trading? and what about others? Which grids are connected? what EU countries will be in the same Pool? This is very important for producers, since it doesn’t make sense to participate in the Pool which has big price difference for producers (forced selling lower than regular national pools). What is the status of pilot project? Can you describe it more in depth. How will you have access to solar production data? Using national system operators? At what interval? How will producer “convert” energy to SNC? Will Pool automatically do that? At what interval? Will you focus only on solar? What about other renawables and carbon-intense production facilities? What guaranties producers will be using solarenewables only? What are expected fees and who pays it? For producing? and trading?
What is the minimum threshold for successful ICO? What currencies will be accepted in ICO? ETH? BTC? What is the max/hard limit? Can escrow publicly confirm participation in ICO?
tranzer That will take a while :ermygerd:
axente :mindblown:
gregornovak We have to be compliant with local energy legislation, that why P2P energy trading will be within the pool within the region
dr10 so your system is focussing on regions? not peer to peer transfer of energy from someone living in spain to someone living in russia?
dr10 Do you expect private people producing solar energy will massively increase in the future? Because I dont know really much people actually use it in Germany and its hype is like 10 years ago. Will Solarcoin work, if not much people are eager to invest into solar equipment?
dr10 What is a "region" to you? a country? Because I think a lot of regions dont have any solar equipment
or very few...
rgornik For sure established structures will try to obstruct our idea. We have in our team really experienced guys from energy sector that are well prepared for all obstacles that can occur
th0r What problems do you anticipate in practical world? Connecting consumers and satisfying goverments (so proper taxes are paid etc).
pyrrhus Is it correct to assume that cross border (national) sale of individually generated solar power even in Europe through the UCTE would not be possible/allowed by national grid owneoperators? And so Suncontract energy can only be traded within a national grid? (edited)
gregornovak We focus a lot of private producers, small power plants, which can be also called prosumers as well.
dr10 Do you expect private people producing solar energy will massively increase in the future? Because I dont know really much people actually use it in Germany and its hype is like 10 years ago. Will Solarcoin work, if not much people are eager to invest into solar equipment?
dr10 do you have already a pool of solar producers for solarcoin? can you share some information where people will use it and how many people? some data?
tranzer Are there any partnerships already in the place?
pyrrhus Are you planning to build large solar farms with ICO funds?
gregornovak Region is defined as state or part of the state, where the same legal rules are applied. For example Slovenia, Austria are regions, but in Germany there are 4 regions. dr10
What is a "region" to you? a country? Because I think a lot of regions dont have any solar equipment
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@matjaz @tenzor7 is preparing the answers for you :))
mike like the photos, adds a personal touch to the AMA chat.
rgornik depends on the funding but we have some fund reserved for distributed solar plants. but not large one (at least for now)
pyrrhus Are you planning to build large solar farms with ICO funds?
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mike will solarcontract be metering production for purchase with solarcontract?
tranzer Are you also going to go in regions where solar energy is a problem (3rd world countries) and what about the US?
gregornovak In Europe we have interconnected transmission grid under ENTSO-e operations. But sending energy cross border is job of TSOs and big retailers, you need special permissions which are traded among TSOs auction trading. We are focused to the local production and consumption within the region, where we can bring added value.
pyrrhus Is it correct to assume that cross border (national) sale of individually generated solar power even in Europe through the UCTE would not be possible/allowed by national grid owneoperators? And so Suncontract energy can only be traded within a national grid?
mad4thrash @rgornik I really want to see this in Italy, we have a lot of solar power users
dr10 Why should I skip to SolarCoin instead of just using renewable energies through my energy provider? Will the energy that I get out of Suncontract be cheaper then what I get of energy companies?
mike yes, P2P power production would be very beneficial, with smart microgrids.
rgornik Italy has a lot of sunny days so would be awesome to invest in your country
mad4thrash @rgornik I really want to see this in Italy, we have a lot of solar power users
mitjablatnik You will buy your energy through SunContract Pool platform. Our first product on the platform is focusing on trading electricity, bur later on we have some other ideas like demand response services.
dr10 How will I be able to buy Energy by Solarcoin, will there be a website? What different offers can I use on that trading platform? Or is it just buying energy and thats it? Will I buy a big energy package that hodls for a month or a year? On what preferences will I chose an energy producer on the platform? Or is it even important who delivers my energy, since it will have all the same price and attitude(solar energy)?
jgalea Just for ease of reference - Suncontract is not the same as Solarcoin. They are two completely separate projects. Suncontract's token is SNC and not SLR (Solarcoin)
dr10 I miswrote
lukapusic Thank you for clarifying this.
jgalea Just for ease of reference - Suncontract is not the same as Solarcoin. They are two completely separate projects. Suncontract's token is SNC and not SLR (Solarcoin)
dr10 :joy:
rgornik We will have to be sure that legislation is liberal. But yes, why not. There is a lot of energy demand in those countries
tranzer Are you also going to go in regions where solar energy is a problem (3rd world countries) and what about the US?
dr10 Do you have any other funds or backing besides the ICO?
tranzer I'm liking this project even more now, see a big potential
so 40,000 ETH to start. What if you by any chance wouldn't meet this minimum?
rgornik We have DSO meters to meter everything
mike will solarcontract be metering production for purchase with solarcontract?
(edited)
lukapusic Minimum cap is 10k eth. We believe we will meet or exceed this goal.
tranzer I'm liking this project even more now, see a big potential
tranzer oh you are right I misread that 40,000 eth line :slightly_smiling_face:
rgornik 40,000ETH is our personal goal that we want to achieve. even if we do not reach 100,000 ETH which is maximum cap we would still be very happy with 40,000 ETH
tranzer I'm liking this project even more now, see a big potential
tranzer Are you going to have smart contract in place? Will it be audited before deployed?
mitjablatnik With SNCs that you have, you can in theory have funds for a lifetime energy supply. the clearing and settlements will be similar as it is today, just the intervals will shorten. so by holding SNCs you could buy energy gradually. The incentive to join the pool is not just financial. Though financial benefit is crucial in energy market.
dr10 How will I be able to buy Energy by Solarcoin, will there be a website? What different offers can I use on that trading platform? Or is it just buying energy and thats it? Will I buy a big energy package that hodls for a month or a year? On what preferences will I chose an energy producer on the platform? Or is it even important who delivers my energy, since it will have all the same price and attitude(solar energy)?
rgornik Yes and yes. Smartcontract is under development and will be ready very soon. Then we will send it to audition before it will be deployed. It will be audited by proffesional. Also all code will be audited, not only smart contracts!
tranzer Are you going to have smart contract in place? Will it be audited before deployed?
dr10 How long will it take for suncontract to offer its intentioned value to the people? When will it be of real use?
gregornovak We have other funds, SONCE company already put some into it
dr10 Do you have any other funds or backing besides the ICO?
rgornik We plan to launch our platform in Q1 2018
dr10 How long will it take for suncontract to offer its intentioned value to the people? When will it be of real use?
tranzer Are you in the talks with any of the exchanges to be listed on when you deploy your tokens? What will price incrase of your tokens mean to smart contract in place?
rgornik Because we will use blockchain technology that will significally lower fees through optimization
dr10 Why should I skip to SolarCoin instead of just using renewable energies through my energy provider? Will the energy that I get out of Suncontract be cheaper then what I get of energy companies?
dr10 I dont know if I overread it... is this your own blockchain or a token asset?
mike so we can have a futures market for energy production with SNC tokens? This will be very nice.
myarkname :rocket: 3000! :rocket:
th0r @dr10 based on ETH blockchain as far as I understand.
mitjablatnik we are in talks with certain renowned exchanges. we have reajusted the cap fro 200.000 ETH to 100.000 ETH due to the rapid increase of the ETH value
tranzer Are you in the talks with any of the exchanges to be listed on when you deploy your tokens? What will price incrase of your tokens mean to smart contract in place?
rgornik right now we are using Ethereum blockchain for that purposes. Throughout the development of the platform we will try to find most optimal solution because we do not want to overtransfer Ethereum blocks because there will be a lot of transactions when platform becomes mainstream
dr10 I dont know if I overread it... is this your own blockchain or a token asset?
tranzer @mitjablatnik what I meant is if I have a contract with energy provider with SNC token and price increases in that time how will you tackle price fluctuations on market?
jgalea Just to add to the above - we are one of the few, if not the only, ICO to reduce the maximum cap in the ICO sale to reflect the increased price of the crypto being accepted for contribution doing the ICO, and this was done purely in the name of fairness and transparency during the ICO*
mike would you be interested in your own EVM chain based on DPoS or permissioned delegate nodes to create blocks, secure the network - saves on gas, a lot less congested.
lukapusic Warning, wall of text coming from @tenzor7
axente :sob: :sob: :sob:
kobi How often are transactions made, per month - per day - per minute? I am asking this, because cost of ETH transactions are getting expensive as more people use it. From point of producer and consumer. (edited) 1 reply Today at 7:41 PM View thread
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this is picture our solar plant that we
tenzor7 @matjaz What are first markets you are launching? EU? Germany? France? Slovenia? We'd like to focus on European countries first. Which countries will support real p2p trading? and what about others? All countries with liberalized energy markets. We'll focus on European countries first, but Middle East, USA and China are also viable to be supported later. Which grids are connected? what EU countries will be in the same Pool? This is very important for producers, since it doesn’t make sense to participate in the Pool which has big price difference for producers (forced selling lower than regular national pools). There will be a different pool for every county/legislation, but they will all be part of the SunContract platform. What is the status of pilot project? Can you describe it more in depth. We started working on the pilot project in April, and it will be completed in a few months. More on this subject will be revealed when the pilot is finished. How will you have access to solar production data? Using national system operators? At what interval? The pilot project is using the existing DSO's power meters for production and consumption side. This meters are managed by the DSO and are reliable by the law. How will producer “convert” energy to SNC? Will Pool automatically do that? At what interval? Yes, the whole system will be atomized. In the beginning, once per day. Will you focus only on solar? What about other renawables and carbon-intense production facilities? No, not only solar but all the renewable energy generating system. However, all energy generating systems will be included into the pool since renewables have inconsistent availability and currently cannot cover the load profile on their own. Our focus in on renewables but not limited to them. What guaranties producers will be using solarenewables only? As mentioned in the previous answer, the pool will not be exclusive to renewables. What are expected fees and who pays it? For producing? and trading?What is the minimum threshold for successful ICO? This is not yet fully determined. What currencies will be accepted in ICO? ETH? BTC? ETH only What is the max/hard limit? 100.000 ETH Can escrow publicly confirm participation in ICO? Check his LinkedIn profile.
mike very impressive!
tranzer Wow guys I'm convinved now :takemymoney:
lukapusic commented on rgornik’s file solar plant We have to take care of that tree though!
mike info on DSO metering for those interested, and their security. http://www.eurelectric.org/media/176922/alagna.pdf
mitjablatnik We are developing a mechanism to cope with this issue. We are aware of this problem and are tackling it. We have several ideas on how to eliminate the effect of price fluctuation regarding SNC token and market price of electricity. this is what we can share with you at the moment due to the competitors that are copying our ideas and models.
tranzer @mitjablatnik what I meant is if I have a contract with energy provider with SNC token and price increases in that time how will you tackle price fluctuations on market?
axente Are you guys looking for plant sites to build more sites on?
tranzer Who is your biggest competitor right now (or upcoming) ?
dr10 What are the references of you and your team members? On what projects did you work before?
rgornik We know some are prepairing to launch an ICO (we do not know when) but that is what we know so far
tranzer Who is your biggest competitor right now (or upcoming) ?
techbytes you can use @axente backyard for bounty...
gregornovak We are focused on the platform now.
axente Are you guys looking for plant sites to build more sites on?
dr10 Will you expand your team after the Ico?
axente :joy: :joy: :joy: @techbytes
boldninja Are you going to be opening a non-profit in Swiss like most of recent blockchain projects or are going to be opening something in Slovenia?
mitjablatnik Our aim is to make transactions every day, but due to the gas price if we can call it like that, we are starting with weekly or even monthly transactions. But this is just as far as billing is concerned (clearing and settlement) kobi How often are transactions made, per month - per day - per minute? I am asking this, because cost of ETH transactions are getting expensive as more people use it. From point of producer and consumer. Thread in #trading_altcoinsToday at 7:37 PM
Our legal team is looking in several European jurisdictions that would be suitable. Maybe @jgalea can elaborate more on that.
boldninja Are you going to be opening a non-profit in Swiss like most of recent blockchain projects or are going to be opening something in Slovenia?
kobi
Can producing electricity be compared to 'mining', where you give electricity & receive tokens?
If someone runs out of tokens for electricity, does the relay shut downs? How do you kick non-payers from network? Or would that be job of electricity pool/grid provider?
How much is one SNC as in WattHours or other Work unit?
I know this is not P'n'D token, since if price gets pumped, electricity consumers would need to pay big money for some electricity, which means they will disconnect from service and find cheaper provider. How can holders gain from this token? (edited)
mike ^ great question, since Proof of Resource type tokens such as this, based by actual value are a favorite use case, but the economics need to be worked out.
jgalea For now the main company being used in the project is established and registered in Slovenia, with other potential jurisdictions such as Estonia being researched and worked upon.
mitjablatnik Our legal team is looking in several European jurisdictions that would be suitable. Maybe @jgalea can elaborate more on that.
tranzer I heard some projects are also using Estonia yes
gregornovak My experiences are coming from IT and Energy sector. I was in the team who established Market Operator Borzen in 2001 and worked there also as CIO for several years. Borzen was that time also Regional Power Exchange, now BSP South Pool. I worked also in TSO, Slovenian Transmission System Operator for 3 years as ICT director. After that I established SONCE Group, EPC and IPP companies for solar power plants and energy efficiency projects. Our team is coming from energy and IT sector as well, from energy analytics expert from London Business School, legal and ex CEO of BSP South Pool power exchange. We have in our advisory boar Jonathan, BitMalta and legal expert on concurrency.
dr10 What are the references of you and your team members? On what projects did you work before?
tranzer OK last question from me I read 11,500 tokens per 1 ETH correct in 1st week?
rgornik Kobi is being answered bit it takes time :slightly_smiling_face:
tranzer how will tokens be distributed I hope not crazy like some latest ICO like 90% for team ?
mitjablatnik yes you are correct. Consider 1500 extra tokens added to the 10.000 as an early bird bonus
tranzer OK last question from me I read 11,500 tokens per 1 ETH correct in 1st week?
jgalea Correct, reducing 500 tokens per week
tranzer OK last question from me I read 11,500 tokens per 1 ETH correct in 1st week?
rgornik exactly. Though bear in mind if you plan to invest more then 500 ETH or you have a group of people that would like to invest more we have something special for those participants.
tranzer OK last question from me I read 11,500 tokens per 1 ETH correct in 1st week?
jgalea You should be honoured @tranzer , triple answer :slightly_smiling_face:
lukapusic Multitasking!
tranzer :success:
rgornik really? Can you explain a bit more on that 500 ETH stuff?
lukapusic Distributed ama answers
rgornik officially it is 80% for participants and 20% for the team
tranzer how will tokens be distributed I hope not crazy like some latest ICO like 90% for team ?
kobi @rgornik Is it Iconomi service :stuck_out_tongue:
rgornik @kobi hahaha nooo 1 reply Today at 7:55 PM View thread
nottsmike Is the ICO open to everyone? Or are there requirements and minimum buy in
jgalea To add to this - the 20% distribution for the team will be staggered i.e. it won't happen all at once
rgornik officially it is 80% for participants and 20% for the team
Open to all
nottsmike Is the ICO open to everyone? Or are there requirements and minimum buy in
Except US Citizens*
mitjablatnik Yes ICO is opened for everybody. the 10.000 SNC per 1 ETH is just an exchange rate if you will. there is no minimum buy in
nottsmike Is the ICO open to everyone? Or are there requirements and minimum buy in
rgornik we allocated 4% of team tokens for everyone that would participate with more than 500 ETH. so efectivelly if first 40,000ETH that we receive are transactions with more than 500 ETH, then we will allocate to those additional 0.05% of all distribution. effectivelly team will have only 16% of supply or you will become part of the team :grinning:
tranzer rgornik really? Can you explain a bit more on that 500 ETH stuff?
aquazi I didn't read before, sorry if it was asked, how do you plan to convince local energy distributors to allow their grids for p2p energy trading? I just don't see the possibility
lukapusic To elaborate further on @rgornik's comment, investment of 1000 eth would net you 11500 SNC per ether + 0.1% of all tokens, taken from team's budget. So this is an incentive for large investors. (edited)
aquazi You lack the infrastructure to deliver what you want to deliver, there's no chance in hell you'd be allowed to do anything like that, e.g. in Italy, the government owns all the infrastructure you need to rent it, and I doubt you could for p2p energy on a blockchain
kobi If they offer cheaper and competitive price, why not @aquazi ?
aquazi how do they actually deliver the energy to your home? wifi?
@kobi
governments own most of the infrastructure
you can't just say "I want to deliver energy on government's infrastructure"
rgornik no, we are using local infrastructure like everybody else
aquazi how do they actually deliver the energy to your home? wifi?
kobi No, not WiFi, that would be silly :smile:
dr10 in germany its not own by the government
there are a lot ot providers
jgalea In liberalised energy markets I don't see why Suncontract would be impeded from operating. It's been stated before. It will be just another "provider"; rather, it will be a pool of providers so more powerful if anything
rgornik EU infrastructure is liberal in EU so there should not be a problem
aquazi Are you aware of legislation? Because there's no chance in hell you can do that neither in Poland or Italy, you can sell energy to the local energy providers but you can't p2p energy lol
And I sold energy conctracts in Italy so I know that
You seem pretty unaware
But dont wanna go as a troll
just curious
rgornik @jgalea can you help here maybe?
tenzor7 In order to reach out to the average, non-crypto Joe, we must separate the volatile crypto market and the energy market. We have several ideas on how to do that, one of them being similar to the 'mining' "marketplace".
There won't be any non-payers as the ability to participate in the pool will be prepaid.
The value of the SNC token is not based on units of energy.
As mentioned in the first answer, the market volatility of the token will not affect the customers.
kobi Can producing electricity be compared to 'mining', where you give electricity & receive tokens? If someone runs out of tokens for electricity, does the relay shut downs? How do you kick non-payers from network? Or would that be job of electricity pool/grid provider? How much is one SNC as in WattHours or other Work unit?
mike depends on jurisdiction, which is why they're doing it by region.
jgalea I would suggest the OP addresses that question to Tomas Lajovic, the lawyer specialising in energy distribution. Afraid that's outside my area of expertise sorry
rgornik @jgalea can you help here maybe?
mike yes, like a proof of resource token can be created by production and consumed by payment settlement, and the SNC used for the payment.
or the PoR token can be a future sold at a discount as a credit redeemable for consumption and payment for the resource.
kobi Ok, that clarifies a lot! @tenzor7
drinomarino So investor have a profit only if market say that price will be higher than it was at ICO, or are there some more positive things about investing?
rgornik Just to be clear, number of SNC will be finite and probably will be deflationary
tenzor7 In order to reach out to the average, non-crypto Joe, we must separate the volatile crypto market and the energy market. We have several ideas on how to do that, one of them being similar to the 'mining' "marketplace". There won't be any non-payers as the ability to participate in the pool will be prepaid. The value of the SNC token is not based on units of energy. Show more…
dr10 deflationairy energy tokens? Isnt that dangerous for a coin circulation? Because everybody is only holding xD Thats my first thought now...
gregornovak This is a good question and it will be the most tough think to do. We have a big amount of funds reserved for this questions. But we see the bright light also in this issue. That's why we have two stage service provided. Our solution of P2P trading is going to be within the SunContract pool participants, so that's why it is possible. For Italian legislation I personally do not now details now, but it will be done during the project for sure. Because we know that Italian markets is also liberalized and there is more retailers present, we see also possibility for the SunContract. Details will be studied.
aquazi Are you aware of legislation? Because there's no chance in hell you can do that neither in Poland or Italy, you can sell energy to the local energy providers but you can't p2p energy lol
rgornik More customers on the platform will mean more trading volume, therefore more preasure on SNC price. Also we will introduce mechanism that will put deflationary forces on token
drinomarino So investor have a profit only if market say that price will be higher than it was at ICO, or are there some more positive things about investing?
drinomarino so like iconomi you will burn tokens or something else?
mike like as the usage and supply of energy increases on the suncontract network, and SNC is the only way to pay for it, the value of the SNC will continue to increase as long as its usage expands faster than the increase in SNC supply.
jgalea This is a general argument brought against deflationary currencies. The fact remains that the need for expenditure will at some point outweigh the need to "hold" the currency. If for example I need a carton of milk today, I won't wait a week to buy it - I'll go and buy it there and then regardless of the fact that it will cost less in a week's time
dr10 deflationairy energy tokens? Isnt that dangerous for a coin circulation? Because everybody is only holding xD Thats my first thought now...
gregornovak We are researching several options.
dr10 deflationairy energy tokens? Isnt that dangerous for a coin circulation? Because everybody is only holding xD Thats my first thought now...
boldninja We are at 1+ hour mark of our AMA - if anyone has any last questions for the team come forward, else I'd like to thank them for their time and all the answers they provided, transcript will also be put on ARK Reddit channel for anyone who missed this AMA to read through their answers!
mike by decoupling the energy use tokens (the proof of resource token) from the payment token, SNC, there is no limiting effect on the supply and use of energy. Antale Fekete does a very good job of explaining hoarding and dishoarding of a currency, his example is gold.
dr10 My final question: How would you - shortly & in easy words - sum-up the advantages of Suncontract to magazines and non-crypto people?
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costa final pitch for "small" investors.
mike The use tokens function like Fekete's Real Bills, which expand and contract in supply to provide liquidity while being backed by the base currency, in his case gold, in this case, would be SNC.
tenzor7 SunContract is a new business model, supported by blockchain technology, which takes over the role of the "middleman". The current retailer's margin will be significantly lowered which is beneficial both to producers and consumers. When the Bitcoin and blockchain were invented, they were directly "attacking" the middleman in finance. We are doing exactly that, "attacking" the middleman in the multi-trillion-dollar energy sector.
dr10 My final question: How would you - shortly & in easy words - sum-up the advantages of Suncontract to magazines and non-crypto people?
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kobi Energy sector is huge, indeed.
boldninja OK I think they answered all the questions - I'd like to thank them again for taking the time and all of them joining this AMA and wish them all the best in their ICO period to hit max cap :smile:
myarkname Thank you SC team, you were great!
jgalea One last comment: feel free to spread the word on the Bitcointalk thread and the Cryptocurrency Collectors Club on Facebook :slightly_smiling_face: https://www.facebook.com/groups/cryptocurrencycollectorsclub/
dr10 Thanks a lot!
rgornik Thank you everyone for your questions. Please join our slack where we can continue discussion. You all were great. Please leave your email on suncotract.org to get invitation to slack and presale. (edited)
axente Thanks guys
mad4thrash thanks a lot
boldninja @jarunik will you be able to do Reddit transcript?
aquazi thanks for clarifying this
gregornovak This is a good question and it will be the most tough think to do. We have a big amount of funds reserved for this questions. But we see the bright light also in this issue. That's why we have two stage service provided. Our solution of P2P trading is going to be within the SunContract pool participants, so that's why it is possible. For Italian legislation I personally do not now details now, but it will be done during the project for sure. Because we know that Italian markets is also liberalized Show more…
kobi Thanks for taking part of your time!
kojot Thanks
moobox thanks for doing the AMA
dr10 https://twitter.com/exiledsurfestatus/874400307568160769
XD
boldninja Did Bancor distribute tokens yet?
mike Thanks for joining us Sun team, look forward to your ICO.
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Hi all! I was wondering, what do you think it would take to get bitcoin from a niche currency used mainly by internet denizens to go mainstraim? I know the slow creep of more small companies accepting bitcoin helps, but what do you think that final cusp will be, and will it ever come to that? Thanks for taking the time to do this! There are several potential tipping points, but my favorite one is a large corporation accepting Bitcoin.
Amazon has an incredibly small operating margin, less than 1% - They have more than that in transaction costs, so if they were to accept Bitcoins for product and offer Bitcoins as payment to their affiliates it would cause a rush of other companies to jump onboard for the same reasons.
Once that happens with one large company, it sets a precedent. Doing something new is scary, and when the regulatory environment is uncertain like it is with Bitcoin the choice to accept could potentially cost you a lot of money later if it's retroactively made not OK and the value of the currency plummets.
But once a company like Amazon or Google jumps in, they have enough political swing and momentum that attacking Bitcoin becomes attacking them, and they'll fight that tooth and nail if it's saving them money.
Another example of a tipping point would be a country, ANY country, adopting it as their formal currency OR issuing a new currency with Bitcoins as the transparent backing of it. With bitcoin you can have a functional gold standard, because the gold doesn't need to be hidden from sight.
It is the hiding that makes gold standards dangerous - The people who issue currency with the gold as backing have no reason to issue the correct amount when only they know how much is out there, and how much gold they have.
I guess the Supreme Court has decided this does not apply to taxes, which is crap. Or are you talking about other countries? Thank you :) I actually mean something along the lines of "It is illegal to trade dollars for any cryptocurrency that does not have a real name and social security associated with it"
Will bitcoins ever be able to be traded like other recognized currencies in similar ways to Forex? More specifically, will there ever be retail brokers offering margin trading accounts that allow you to buy and sell bitcoin with leverage? There are already really small niche sites you can trade Bitcoin at leverage with, but it's just a bad idea. With a "normal" commodity market, like say chickens, if you think chickens are undervalued and want to profit from them you can buy forward production of say, a million chickens. Then when the option comes due, if you're on the profitable side of the trade you can essentially sell it for cash and the chickens never need to be delivered. In that way, it almost doesn't matter if the chickens ever existed to begin with because you never intended to take posession. With Bitcoin, it's different - Converting a bitcoin options contract into US dollars, yen, whatever actually is more expensive and time consuming than just "accepting delivery" of the bitcoins themselves. You can still sell them for whatever currency you want, but it is at the time of your choosing rather than at the point of settlement. What that means is that if you sell an option and the Bitcoins don't really exist, you could be screwed. You either default or buy them at market price which can be very painful given how volatile the pricing is right now. It is a bad idea to play with leverage in Bitcoin because if you lose, you potentially lose very big. Additionally, it's bad to buy an option because you introduce the possibility of the counterparty (supply) not being able to deliver, whereas if you just bought Bitcoins you have the Bitcoins.
Do you believe bitcoin is important locally as well as on the internet? If so, how are you promoting bitcoin in your local communities? Cryptocurrencies (of which Bitcoin is the most prominent) are the first real competition to the types of money we've used all our lives. With Dollars, Yen, Whatever - Ultimately there are a handful of people who get to decide how and why the currency should be managed.
If they did a good job, it might be fine - But the reality is the decision made affecting all users of the currency are to the benefit of a very few , at the cost of the many.
Bitcoin is different - The rules that govern it, are the rules that govern it. Nobody can break them, and if they're ever broken it's because more than 51% of the distributed power in the system (anyone can buy a mining rig and join this group). For me, that's incredibly important. Rules should apply evenly to everyone because otherwise they're not rules at all.
Local communities can benefit because it removes payment processors from merchant relationships, removes chargeback risk, and basically acts like Cash on the internet.
What are some of the more exciting things you (each of you?) envision for Bitcoin in the short to medium term? Discounts :) We've been talking about the deflationary business model, and during this period where the value is going to go up pretty fast (over the next several years) as adoption ramps up, businesses are going to be giving major discounts to those who choose to spend them.
From the merchants perspective, this is actually a huge win - They get to have lower prices than their US Dollar (or local currency) competitors, and the value of the Bitcoins they receive goes up over time instead of going down with printed currencies. Once this becomes pervasive in the Bitcoin economy, it will mean that even at those discounted prices they are STILL profitable because their suppliers are also offering them discounts to pay in Bitcoin.
Right now we're at the beginning of this cycle, you can see BitcoinStore.com is attempting it (Disclosure - They have sponsored us in the past, we run a 30s advertisement for them per show) but it's hard to be the first one doing it because it looks like you're sacrificing yourself when really it's just the model that makes the most sense.
Not to be the doom and gloom person but in the future what do you think will/would be the "last nail in the coffin" for Bitcoin? It depends what you mean by "last nail in the coffin"
How did you meet/find Andreas and Stephanie and how did you persuade them to be part of your show? I put out a call for staff several months ago, Andreas found me through that and joined the team initially as a correspondent providing expertise and commentary while Mt.Gox was having a lot of problems. Once we re-started the show as a twice-weekly, he graciously offered to join the hosting staff and gladly took him up on it.
I found Stephanie through her show Porc therapy, and a listener named Justus - He mentioned she did voicework, and I hired her to do some of our early introductions and advertising spots. When we went through the re-organization I offered her an occasional hosting role, and never bothered finding other hosts because I was so happy with our dynamic and varied viewpoints.
Both of the other hosts on the show are real professionals, and it's been my distinct pleasure to work with them.
Thanks for responding! Andreas is my fave (though I enjoy yours and Stephanie's comments too). Everybody has their favorite :) I think the fact that we all have people disagreeing with us at times means we're doing the job, and providing multiple and varied perspectives.
What recording tools are you using? We started off using Skype, Virtual Audio Cables (VAC) and Adobe Audition (creative suite)
Now we use Mumble instead of Skype, but the rest is the same.
I edit the host segments for content (sometimes we go on and on and on) and I edit the interviews for presentation, rarely removing any content. Many times the skillset that enables you to have a really smart idea is not the same skillset that lets you present that idea, perfectly, the first time. Our interview subjects tell me all the time "I love how smart I sound" and I get to say "You are smart, I just removed the brain processing noises"
Assuming bitcoin reaches critical mass, how does bitcoin cope with the criticism of rewarding early adopters? Do you see a potential uproar about inequity? Is there outrage against people who bought Apple stock at $30? Bitcoin is a currency that right now, and for the next few years, acting like an IPO. People who got in early got in cheap, but there was a whole lot of risk because people weren't using it much, there wern't vendors accepting it, so the use case is much more speculative.
We're very much still in the early adoption phase right now - Less than %.01 of internet users are Bitcoin users, as that number grows while the number of coins being added to the total pool grows at a much slower rate, the price per coin has to go up. If Bitcoin fails and everybody abandons it, this works the opposite way - but it actually solves a number of problems (microtransactions, fees, international money transfers, automated payment systems) so I'm not super concerned about that.
One of my favorite quotes, by Douglas Adams.
>It is a rare mind indeed that can render the hitherto non-existent >blindingly obvious. The cry 'I could have thought of that' is a very >popular and misleading one, for the fact is that they didn't, and a very >significant and revealing fact it is too.
What do you make of the download trend of the bitcoin client software in China? Isn't this a big story? China has lots of restrictive controls on their local currency, so Bitcoin has a real use case there. This is one of many scenarios where given even 1% adoption, the price must go very much above where it is now.
You commented on a recent episode about how Satochi Dice was going to block US traffic to the site due to uncertain regulations. Can't bitcoin work around that? If you send bitcoin to the addresses of the various bets - it still works right? Thanks for your show - I await each new podcast. Yes, if you already have the specific betting addresses it doesn't matter where you are in the world. It is only the website that does not allow US IPs, they did this to be very clear they were trying to respect the US gambling laws.
I spoke with Erik Voorhees about this among other things at the conference, you can find that interview here Link to letstalkbitcoin.com
I'd like to thank all three of you for doing this podcast, it's always thought provoking and fun to listen to. Plus, Stephanie does have a very sexy voice... But I do have a question, Right now, I don't know the answer to that question.
How do miners determine which transactions will be confirmed first and which get put to the back of the line? Shouldn't they be confirmed in a 'first come, first serve' basis? But the development team has made it clear they're moving towards a market-based mechanism where Miners set the minimum transaction fee they will accept, and process on a first-come/highest-fee model. People who want their transaction to process fast will put a higher fee and it will be prioritized, while people who don't care about delivery time will be able to send no fee and be subsidized by those paying higher fees.
*edit: As well, do you still plan on using some time on the show to go into more detail about mining? I think it was mentioned a few weeks ago that the topic might be explored in further detail. There will be fewer miners who accept free or very low fee transactions, so there you go.
How would Bitcoin change our financial system as we know it? In the same way the automobile changed the horse-and-buggy system as they knew it. If you play out the logic, one functionally obsoletes the other. I was talking with a financial reporter the other day who has been coming around to bitcoin, and he said to me "You know, if they were building the banking system from scratch today I think this is pretty close to what it would look like"
Andreas answered a question below about bitcoin and self driving cars, fixing spam on the internet by using Bitcoin addresses with tiny amounts of BTC in them to prove you're a real person and not a single-use bot, there are so many crazy and impossible things that become actually probable when you're talking in the context of a world built on decentralized, rules-based, cryptographically secured, instantly transmittable, person to person internet cash.
I have never been so hopeful for our future as I am now that I've thrown my days into bitcoin. Bitcoin 2013 was a fine conference and a wonderful experiance, so many very smart people have quit their jobs or left their studies to do the same thing I have.
We know we're building the future, and it's a better one than we have today.
Have any of you heard about how in Africa much of the exchange in value is done with mobile phone minutes? It seems to me - whatever the US attempts to do with Bitcoin - there will be other places that it will bubble up in. What about Argentina and other places where they actually understand what damage a desperate government can do to a currency? I would agree with you. Until recently it's been impossible to use Bitcoins on a "dumb cell phone" - That changed recently with Link to phoneacoin.com and others.
Bitcoin solves problems that the world has had for decades, it takes the power to destroy the currency away from government so they cannot do it no matter how much they want to, or how desperately they think they need to.
No government wants to destroy a currency, they just don't want to acknowledge they've trapped themselves with debt and have no way out.
Who invented Bitcoin? What is to stop whoever did so initially issuing themselves the equivalent of $79 zillion in Bitcoin currency prior to it taking off? Is there commission charged on each transaction that occurs? If so, how much, and who receives this? The true creator is not known, he went by a false name "Satoshi".
He actually holds about 250,000 coins if I recall correctly because he was the first miner. Bitcoin is a protocol, a set of rules. It's open source, and anyone who wants to look at it can see that there is not a mechanism to just create more coins by typing in a magic word. There are no commissions, although there are fees that go to the miners who process and verify transactions.
Great podcast, can't wait for the next one! It depends on the mesh. If the mesh was never connected to the internet, it would be a parralel Bitcoin network able to transact with itself but if it was ever connected to the larger network any conflicting transactions would be "lost" as the two ledgers (the big one, and the disconnected one) try to reckon their differences. Only one winner, so that means there is a loser.
You discussed mesh networks in 3rd world countries and how bitcoin could be used in such a scenario. If the [mesh] network is disconnected from the internet, how would transactions on the blockchain be verified? Couldn't the time the mesh network was disconnected make it vulnerable to hacking the [mesh network's] blockchain? More interesting might be disconnected communities running their own fork or version of Bitcoin, that way if they're ever connected it can be an exchange process (trading their coins for "bitcoins" rather than a reckoning (Seeing who has a bigger network and canceling out transactions on the smaller one that conflict)
1) The price for one Bitcoin seems to fluctuate quite a bit. The most successful currencies remain relatively stable over time (e.g. the Dollar). Will Bitcoin ever need to reach a certain level of stability to be a successful unit of trade? and if so, what do you think needs to happen before then? 1 - Yes! Once everyone who has purchased Bitcoin has purchased them, the price will stabilize. In practice this will start happening long before absolute stability, and as soon as people start thinking about prices in terms of BTC instead of their local currency it almost doesn't matter.
2) If Bitcoin ever becomes a widely accepted form of payment (seems a lot of businesses already accept it), how do you think the US government will proceed/react/regulate/etc. considering that technically only the feds can issue currency? 2 - "The Feds" are not the only ones who can issue currency - They have legal tender laws which mean people MUST accept their money, but nothing prevents you from circulating a voluntary currency like Bitcoin.
Do you foresee companies like paypal incorporating bitcoin into their businesses in the future as a more credible exchange than these ones that are currently running? No. Paypal again is the proverbial horse-drawn-buggy manufacturer- Sure they might go to the worlds faire and while observing the new fangled automobiles say to themselves 'we might integrate this into our existing machines!' when the fact is that it obsoletes those existing machines.
Paypal makes their money by standing in the middle of transactions collecting fees, Bitcoin serves its function by connecting people who want to do commerce directly to one-another, and what fees are paid are a tiny fraction of what Paypal does. If paypal accepted Bitcoin, it would not be Bitcoin any more because they would have mechanisms to freeze accounts at the very least to mitigate risk. That is not possible with Bitcoin by itself.
Thanks for the well thought out response, I genuinely appreciated that you took the time for this! I do have a follow up question, how does one get bit coin in an easy way? Lets say I have 300$ that I want in bit coin.. whats the best way to approach this? Probably a company like bitinstant.com, bitstamp.com, or btcquick.com - For larger amounts they don't make too much sense but at that level its your best bet.
Not to be rude, but how do you expect for a currency without a standard like gold silver etc. to not crash down in a blaze of glory? What standard is your currency backed by?
Hi There. I was at the San Jose convention hall last weekend attending Big Wow Comicfest and that's where I saw Bitcoin2013! Mostly Bitcoin 2013 was an opportunity for people building the future of Bitcoin to meet each other and network. There were speakers talking about a wide variety of issues, and vendors of Bitcoin services who were showing their latest innovations and systems.
What information was presented at this event that couldn't be done justice disseminated over the internet? The information will eventually be online, but the probably 200 people I got to meet in real life will not (in real life)
What resources do you think I should review as a total newbie to bitcoin? Or if possible, what's the one sentence pitch to get a newb involved? For people brand new, www.weusecoins.com is a good place to start For people who want to learn how it works, www.letstalkbitcoin.com/learn will direct you to the Bitcoin Education Project, which is a series of free and very high quality lectures that will tell you everything you ever wanted to know and more about Bitcoin, How it works, and all the little sub-topics that you'll eventually want to learn about.
The pitch is "It's like cash that lives on the internet, and is as easy to spend on the internet as buying a candybar in a store with a dollar"
Would any of you hazard a guess at the bitcoin exchange rate at the end of 2013? Sure, i'll make a wild guess.
$1000.
If and when a large user comes onboard, I think thats the next price at which we'll bounce around for a while, just like 100 became the sticky point after the last major bout of adoption.
How do bitcoins relate to the law? For example, what would be the crime if somone hacked your account and stole your bitcoins? It's not exactly theft of money, or is it? Bitcoins are your property, it's illegal for someone to steal your property whether it is money or not. Right now there is little that can be done about theft, but eventually I expect a class of "Blockchain Forensic Investigators" to emerge who will track down your stolen coins for a % based fee.
On your last show you mentioned the diversity of the Bitcoiners who attended BitCoin2013 - which nation was most represented in your opinion? Were there any Chinese nationals present (we've heard that they've suddenly gotten the bitcoin bug in the last month)? Did the other nations talk about regulatory problems or is that just a US concern? I met the gentleman from BTC-China, but other than that I actually didn't see any obvious chinese nationals. We saw lots of eastern europeans and south americans.
Other nations are not talking about the regulatory issue as far as I can tell, it seems like everyone is waiting to see what the US does, which is not abnormal in a very new situation like this.
Isn't having an inherently deflationary currency a terrible idea? How is bitcoin different from geeky goldbuggery? Because you can't divide a gold coin into .0001 without incurring cost and expense. That's not the case with Bitcoin, so the deflationary aspect of it is largely moot.
There is a tendency to listen to modern "economics" which makes this arguement, saying that the money supply must expand because otherwise it drives down profitability in a race to the bottom.
I think in practice we'll find that people don't work against their own best interest, and while during the initial adoptions stages of Bitcoin there will be significant discounts offered to those who pay with Bitcoin vs. legacy currency, once the market becomes saturated and the price levels out those discounts will be scaled way back.
Right now it makes sense to heavily discount, because the expectation is that the value of the Bitcoins will go up during this period of adoption, that won't always be true and the discount is a reflection of anticipated future returns.
Was it bad when people saved money in banks that paid 10% interest? No, that's called capital formation. There is a thought that given a deflationary currency nobody will spend any money, that's nonsense. Just because your currency gains value over time doesn't mean that you no longer have costs that must be paid for. What Deflationary currencies do is say "Ok, you could spend it on that, but is it worth it relative to what you'll gain by not?"
That's a good thing. Our system right now works on the opposite theory - Spend money NOW because if you're dumb enough to keep it in the bank it will actually lose value over time between the couple points of "official" inflation and less than 1% artifical interest rates. The situation is like this now because the fed is trying to make people spend as much money as possible with the hope that the flows will "restart the economic engine"
Too bad this isn't how things work, not that it'll stop us from trying it over and over again.
In the 2008 financial crash, govts bailed out the banks because there was no other way to maintain the whole financial ecosystems of payrolls, invoices and trade, all of which go through the banking system. Honestly? No. Bitcoin would be great in this role, but governments around the world rely on their ability to expand the money supply (print money, or sell debt) in order to fund their deficits. They also manipulate interest rates to be low so that debt is very inexpensive.
Can you envisage another financial crash in the future where govt says, "We don't need to do a bailout, as we've got this alternative payment system" and then instructs businesses and employees to just get themselves a bitcoin address and work through the Bitcoin system? Bitcoin doesn't have a central control mechanism, so there is no group or person who can say "OK - the interest rate is 1%" - If that's really what the interest rate wants to be based on market forces, it'll be that - But if not, there isn't much anyone can do to stop it.
What type of notes and agenda does the team coordinate on before a show? We use Basecamp, and it really depends. Right now we have a show prep thread that has 30+ posts in it for episode 11, we'll probably use 5 of those.
The agenda is really basic - As we get near recording time topics are selected (generally by me, but I like to get the other hosts to do it since they provide most of the commentary in Host segments) and I form a schedule, then we run through the recording session hitting each topic.
Over the last weeks we've brought two researchers onto the team, so that has helped a TON.
I first learned about Bitcoins on an episode of The Good Wife. The one with Jason Biggs as the creator of BitCoin. Have you watched that episode and how accurate does that episode portray what's happening with Bitcoin in terms of legal stuff? Not having seen it but knowing TV, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "not very well" Satoshi has not been identified, was a throw-away identity that was cryptographically secured, so probably never will.
Are there any conferences in Chicago anytime soon? I think a Q&A in public would be helpful for your show as well as bitcoin. I'll be speaking at an event in NYC on July 30, there will be one or two meetups while I'm there. There is also an event in October in Atlanta. I remember talking with a guy at Bitcoin2013 wearing a shirt that said "BitcoinChicago" so I'd suggest looking for a user-group.
We're planning on doing Q&As often, but none of us are really near Chicago so it's tough. Happy to do virtual Q&As over skype, live or recorded.
Oh dear. You're not all perfectly grammatical orators on the first try? I'm crushed! I really value my own time, and I know other people out there do too. I try to make the show as information dense as possible, thats the criteria we've been operating under from really day one.
We're actually talking about cutting the show in half and releasing it more often (still recording the same amount) because people can get tired of listening to such dense content for an hour or more.
US Treasury recently issued a directive stating they would be monitoring any entity attempting to exchange virtual currency for USD (or any other currency, goods, or services), indicating that federal authorities take a dim view of what amounts to private coinage. Do you anticipate a Supreme Court case here defining what is and is not private coinage? 2.And given bitcoin's noted extra-legal uses, do you have any indication it is being decrypted by NSA? 3.Taking it a step further, do you think it could be a national security-sponsored international sieve for money laundering? It may eventually go to Supreme Court.
I think the market has done fine for bitcoin so far. I think the market will continue to take care of bitcoin. The idea of giving in willingly to regulation makes me cringe. There are two camps. Some people think that regulation is inevitable, and since it's going to happen anyways it's better to participate in the process and try to make it less bad. The other side thinks that by participating, you accept their authority to regulate it when really they have no right to regulate money and have proven to do a very bad job at it now for quite a number of years.
Thanks so much for doing this, I love the Bitcoin system, but hate the volatility. How do you recommend dealing with that? I've heard to convert it quickly to the currency of choice after any exchange has been made to avoid any more changes to the price. The easy solution is just buy and hold - If you need to buy something, do it when you need to and not before. Do not pre-order anything.
What is your prediction of the price for 1 btc in USD, exactly one year from now? Just for fun, since I know it is impossible to even guess the day to day price swings. As a wild guess number I'd say $1000 or less than a dollar. Very little middleground because if it's regulated out of existence it will still exist, but be hard to find and cheap - If adoption continues to path the price should accelerate with wild spikes up and down.
My partner is buying into bitcoin as well as litecoin. Any advice for him? (I personally don't understand it) Don't panic, invest for the long term, and don't buy any more than you can afford to lose 100% of because there are still things that could dramatically reduce the price of bitcoin (mostly regulatory stuff, I answered this elsewhere in the thread)
Hello, I just wrote a long post about the functions of using BTC to facilitate a 'free bank' using the principals of free money, similar to the WIR bank. Link to en.wikipedia.org Do you think that something like this would be possible using Bitcoin? Probably. Not really my area of expertise.
Why did bits take a dive at the same time gold took a tank? I don't pay attention to price, sorry.
We take full credit for any rise and blame others for any decline. Feel free to tip us from your gains! Lol.
Just wanted to say I love your show. I encourage you to please continue making high-quality podcast episodes. Thank you. I'm really excited to be able to be a journalist in such an exciting field in a time when journalism is under attack. Not sure if you've been following the so-called "AP scandal" but now is a weird time to be trying to report the truth in this world, and we couldn't have picked a more controversial topic to the global macro picture.
Bitcoins are the stupidest investment anyone could ever make. Pass. Link to static.quickmeme.com
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Yes, but they started being worth a set value. bitcoin was never backed by anything so its value was kind of made up. how do you expect to make a non goverment currency anybody with a computer can print to retain value? Because the pie is only so large, the more people who have computers devoted to the work just each get a smaller and smaller piece.
The rate of issuance for Bitcoin is currently 25 bitcoins every 10 minutes. Only one person or pool gets the whole 25 bitcoins, it's a race to find them. If there are 10 people looking, chances are pretty good you'll find some. If there are 100,000,000 people looking, chances are much less good that you'll find them first, but if there are that many people looking those 25 coins are probably worth a whole lot more.
The system is self balancing in this way, unlike the government currency system where they create 65 billion USD worth of new value every month to buy mortgage backed securities for face value to try and prop up the market. With more than a trillion USD being added in this way each year, how can a government currency retain its value?
Because the governments "pie" does infact have limits to making it, and only dropped gold standard after over 150 years of the doller having a defined worth, unlike bitcoin, where a random hacker can just print endless money. I'd direct you to security researcher Dan Kaminsky. Link to www.businessinsider.com
You'll find it's a little harder than you're describing. Like, impossible.
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